Comments on: Also, Karl Marx used a lot of run-on sentences http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/ the blog that is not dansdata.com Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:32:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Coderer http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5703 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:03:57 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5703 Always an education, this blog. I did not think that "decimate" had meant "to kill one tenth of"; rather, I had thought it meant "to kill *nine*-tenths of", as in to reduce by a factor of 10. Which, in my book, is not a far leap from "to kill most of", which would have meant that the term had not been too badly polluted. But apparently I got that wrong. Huh. Always an education, this blog. I did not think that "decimate" had meant "to kill one tenth of"; rather, I had thought it meant "to kill *nine*-tenths of", as in to reduce by a factor of 10. Which, in my book, is not a far leap from "to kill most of", which would have meant that the term had not been too badly polluted. But apparently I got that wrong. Huh.

]]> by: Red October http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5702 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:25:43 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5702 Unfunk; I know what is usually involved in female circumcision. Plenty of cosmetic procedures ruin the intended function of the parts they are on; boob jobs can leave nasty scars if done sloppily (as all bush surgery will be) and can degrade the sensitivity of the nipple even if done right, botox injections will slowly eliminate your ability to move your face, so on and so forth; I kinda thought most people would make that jump. Whoops. But no, while I won't get into the specifics of the procedure, let's say I can crank one off unaided without too much trouble, and to be honest, even if it were a problem, K-Y is cheap and VD or penile cancer is no fun, nevermind having one less place on your body for funk to accumulate, I'm happy with the current situation. Unfunk; I know what is usually involved in female circumcision. Plenty of cosmetic procedures ruin the intended function of the parts they are on; boob jobs can leave nasty scars if done sloppily (as all bush surgery will be) and can degrade the sensitivity of the nipple even if done right, botox injections will slowly eliminate your ability to move your face, so on and so forth; I kinda thought most people would make that jump. Whoops.

But no, while I won't get into the specifics of the procedure, let's say I can crank one off unaided without too much trouble, and to be honest, even if it were a problem, K-Y is cheap and VD or penile cancer is no fun, nevermind having one less place on your body for funk to accumulate, I'm happy with the current situation.

]]> by: unfunk http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5700 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:34:31 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5700 Dan! I think I found an odd bug with your new-fangled commenting system (apologies if it's been found already). The preview thinger will accurately preview <UL> tags, but they're not allowed in the actual post. Being the sort of geek that expects things to work, I only read the "allowed HTML" thing after it had already mangled my nicely formatted text :( Dan! I think I found an odd bug with your new-fangled commenting system (apologies if it's been found already).

The preview thinger will accurately preview <UL> tags, but they're not allowed in the actual post. Being the sort of geek that expects things to work, I only read the "allowed HTML" thing after it had already mangled my nicely formatted text :(

]]> by: unfunk http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5699 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:30:19 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5699 Two things, Red: 1) Female Circumcision usually involves removal of the clitoris. That would be like male circumcision removing the glans of your penis. It's far more dangerous and life-destroying than the removal of some excess folds of skin. 2) Don't you find you have to use some sort of lubrication to.. uh... squeeze one off? At least being uncut I can choose to have my foreskin removed at a time of my own choosing, should I wish to do so. A 3-week old baby has no such choice. TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI So anyway, the <i>correct</i> usage of Lego is: Can I have some Lego please? Pass me that long block. No, not that long, the other one. The <i>blue</i> one. Look, I made a Lego car! Watch as I drive my car made of Lego into the wall! I guess I'd better pick up all the Lego that went everywhere... Alternatively; Here, go play with your Lego. ... <b>UN-FUUUUUNK! I JUST STEPPED ON ONE OF YOUR LEGO PIECES! COME AND PICK THIS MESS UP!</b> Make sense? Two things, Red:

1) Female Circumcision usually involves removal of the clitoris. That would be like male circumcision removing the glans of your penis. It's far more dangerous and life-destroying than the removal of some excess folds of skin.

2) Don't you find you have to use some sort of lubrication to.. uh... squeeze one off? At least being uncut I can choose to have my foreskin removed at a time of my own choosing, should I wish to do so. A 3-week old baby has no such choice.

TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI TMI

So anyway, the correct usage of Lego is:

Can I have some Lego please?
Pass me that long block.
No, not that long, the other one.
The blue one.
Look, I made a Lego car!
Watch as I drive my car made of Lego into the wall!
I guess I'd better pick up all the Lego that went everywhere...

Alternatively;

Here, go play with your Lego.
...
UN-FUUUUUNK! I JUST STEPPED ON ONE OF YOUR LEGO PIECES! COME AND PICK THIS MESS UP!
Make sense?

]]> by: Red October http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5689 Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:59:25 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5689 Fuzzy I don't know where this idea comes from that male circumcision makes it difficult to have a wank... I've never had a problem with it in my life ;) I've never understood the problem some people have with male circumcision; it doesn't generally cause anything like the problems that have decent odds of comming along with female circumcision, nor is it particularly destructive to sensitive tissues, and it brings to the table many benefits (whereas when you get right down to it, the female job is basically a cosmetic procedure with no direct health benefit in sight.) It becomes a human rights issues because it's done with old razors in the bush (or worse, broken glass!) on people who gave no consent. I know I'd be just as aghast if they were doing unrequested boob jobs on six-year-olds, using tools found in a mechanic's shop. "Mutilating" ourselves is part of our culture, and we all do it in one way or another (cosmetic surgery is the chosen, socially acceptable form in the west, but as anyone who's ever been to BMEzine can tell you, the rest of the world's practices are finding root in western soil. Since I try to be open-minded an respectful of everyone's freedom, even to do boneheaded things, I have to draw the line at "done without consent in unhygenic conditions" not "Ack! Genital surgery!" like I think many people are. (And I do have a little suspiscion that at least a few are simply going "Ack! Culture different from mine!") Fuzzy I don't know where this idea comes from that male circumcision makes it difficult to have a wank... I've never had a problem with it in my life ;) I've never understood the problem some people have with male circumcision; it doesn't generally cause anything like the problems that have decent odds of comming along with female circumcision, nor is it particularly destructive to sensitive tissues, and it brings to the table many benefits (whereas when you get right down to it, the female job is basically a cosmetic procedure with no direct health benefit in sight.) It becomes a human rights issues because it's done with old razors in the bush (or worse, broken glass!) on people who gave no consent. I know I'd be just as aghast if they were doing unrequested boob jobs on six-year-olds, using tools found in a mechanic's shop. "Mutilating" ourselves is part of our culture, and we all do it in one way or another (cosmetic surgery is the chosen, socially acceptable form in the west, but as anyone who's ever been to BMEzine can tell you, the rest of the world's practices are finding root in western soil. Since I try to be open-minded an respectful of everyone's freedom, even to do boneheaded things, I have to draw the line at "done without consent in unhygenic conditions" not "Ack! Genital surgery!" like I think many people are. (And I do have a little suspiscion that at least a few are simply going "Ack! Culture different from mine!")

]]> by: n17ikh http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5687 Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:04:54 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5687 <i>If "maths" is short for "mathematics", what is "math" short for..?</i> Mathematics. As I've seen it said elsewhere, the s goes away with the ematic. As an American, I also say Legos. Firefox, however, is underlining it with red squiggles and is suggesting that I change it to Lego, Leos, or perhaps Egos. If "maths" is short for "mathematics", what is "math" short for..?
Mathematics. As I've seen it said elsewhere, the s goes away with the ematic.

As an American, I also say Legos. Firefox, however, is underlining it with red squiggles and is suggesting that I change it to Lego, Leos, or perhaps Egos.

]]> by: ZorglubZ http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5685 Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:18:13 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5685 FuzzyPlushroom: If "maths" is short for "mathematics", what is "math" short for..? As for the mutilation of genitalia, I'm a Norwegian (and therefore also a Scandinavian), and I fully approve of the prosecutions. As for the male variety... that's rather uncommon here, the notable exception being the religiously mandated variety. FuzzyPlushroom:
If "maths" is short for "mathematics", what is "math" short for..?
As for the mutilation of genitalia, I'm a Norwegian (and therefore also a Scandinavian), and I fully approve of the prosecutions. As for the male variety... that's rather uncommon here, the notable exception being the religiously mandated variety.

]]> by: FuzzyPlushroom http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5681 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:13:52 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5681 I'm an American. I play with Legos. I'd be willing to play with Lego if folks in other Commonwealth nations would be willing to work on math with me instead of 'maths'. As far as circumcision is concerned, I think it's a damn shame that some cultures view it as necessary for either gender, though obviously it's far more of a concern in females (because it's not so much circumcision as mutilation). If a young boy is taught to keep his penis clean, and learns when he is of age that he must use a condom with partners with whom he is not in a long-term monogamous relationship, I see no disadvantages to his penis remaining intact. On the other hand, if his foreskin is removed, it makes it ever-so-slightly harder to have a wank, and of course some folks view that as dirty and sinful and such. It seems to me that the foreskin's continual existence should be a non-issue. I'm an American. I play with Legos. I'd be willing to play with Lego if folks in other Commonwealth nations would be willing to work on math with me instead of 'maths'.

As far as circumcision is concerned, I think it's a damn shame that some cultures view it as necessary for either gender, though obviously it's far more of a concern in females (because it's not so much circumcision as mutilation). If a young boy is taught to keep his penis clean, and learns when he is of age that he must use a condom with partners with whom he is not in a long-term monogamous relationship, I see no disadvantages to his penis remaining intact. On the other hand, if his foreskin is removed, it makes it ever-so-slightly harder to have a wank, and of course some folks view that as dirty and sinful and such. It seems to me that the foreskin's continual existence should be a non-issue.

]]> by: Kagato http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5679 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:59:51 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5679 Lego is definitely a mass noun to me. Lego is like sand. If you're doing anything useful with it, you should have so much that calling it a collection of parts becomes meaningless. "I have too much Lego to fit in this box." "I have too many Lego bricks to fit in that box." Any of <i>bricks, blocks</i> or <i>pieces</i> are fine as count nouns depending what bits you're talking about. Lego is definitely a mass noun to me.

Lego is like sand. If you're doing anything useful with it, you should have so much that calling it a collection of parts becomes meaningless.

"I have too much Lego to fit in this box."
"I have too many Lego bricks to fit in that box."

Any of bricks, blocks or pieces are fine as count nouns depending what bits you're talking about.

]]> by: metalskin http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5673 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:16:14 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/09/21/also-karl-marx-used-a-lot-of-run-on-sentences/#comment-5673 Hmm this Lego discussion is interesting. I grew up with Lego, loved it as a kid during the 70's and early 80's. Never ever in my life until now have I seen or heard the form Legos. Looks like the name for an elf if you ask me! I do not know the correct terms but if I was to refer to multiple units of Lego blocks then I would say something along the lines of: "Can I have some Lego pieces please?" "Can you pass me some blocks of Lego" "Give me some bl**dy Lego blocks" "Mum he is hogging all the Lego" As I've demonstrated it is quite possible to refer to Lego as you would refer to sheep, "Give me some sheep", "Give me a sheep", "Do you have any sheep?" I'm not aware of a collective for it though, but don't even collectives change the noun? E.g. it is a gaggle of geese but a single goose, a flock of birds, a bird. Just my thoughts :) Oh on the circumcision discussion, well I'm 40, was chopped as a kid. Apparently (don't have the statistics) but a lot of males in Australia were circumcised back in the 60's and early 70's. It's died out now but I'm not really certain why. My three sons are not circumcised mainly because no one asked and we didn't know how to ask. It does appear to help in cleanliness, which of course can be managed with education. However a lot of parents find it hard to discuss such issues with children about cleaning such private parts of a young boy's anatomy. My second son had a serious infection and had to have surgery as a result when he was around umm 6. Doctors said at the time that a circumcision would be required if it reoccurs as the circumcision will stop it. But then it comes down to the health pluses and minuses and which side it falls on. Aid's is an interesting case and not sure if that is a good enough reason to justify it considering how safe sex and sex education can have a big impact on it as well. To me the bigger issue is potential hygiene issues versus the chances of damage (which I hear can cause too much sensitivity and other issues). What does annoy me is how people who are opponents of male circumcision as they feel it is abuse use emotive video and terms to try and push their agenda. Hmm this Lego discussion is interesting. I grew up with Lego, loved it as a kid during the 70's and early 80's. Never ever in my life until now have I seen or heard the form Legos. Looks like the name for an elf if you ask me!

I do not know the correct terms but if I was to refer to multiple units of Lego blocks then I would say something along the lines of:

"Can I have some Lego pieces please?"

"Can you pass me some blocks of Lego"

"Give me some bl**dy Lego blocks"

"Mum he is hogging all the Lego"

As I've demonstrated it is quite possible to refer to Lego as you would refer to sheep, "Give me some sheep", "Give me a sheep", "Do you have any sheep?" I'm not aware of a collective for it though, but don't even collectives change the noun? E.g. it is a gaggle of geese but a single goose, a flock of birds, a bird.

Just my thoughts :)

Oh on the circumcision discussion, well I'm 40, was chopped as a kid. Apparently (don't have the statistics) but a lot of males in Australia were circumcised back in the 60's and early 70's. It's died out now but I'm not really certain why. My three sons are not circumcised mainly because no one asked and we didn't know how to ask. It does appear to help in cleanliness, which of course can be managed with education. However a lot of parents find it hard to discuss such issues with children about cleaning such private parts of a young boy's anatomy. My second son had a serious infection and had to have surgery as a result when he was around umm 6. Doctors said at the time that a circumcision would be required if it reoccurs as the circumcision will stop it.

But then it comes down to the health pluses and minuses and which side it falls on. Aid's is an interesting case and not sure if that is a good enough reason to justify it considering how safe sex and sex education can have a big impact on it as well. To me the bigger issue is potential hygiene issues versus the chances of damage (which I hear can cause too much sensitivity and other issues).

What does annoy me is how people who are opponents of male circumcision as they feel it is abuse use emotive video and terms to try and push their agenda.

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