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	<title>Comments on: If only Steorn had been taking bets</title>
	<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/</link>
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		<title>by: reyalp</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5182</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:12:40 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Totally OT, but since I know Dan loves the homeopathy http://drboli.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/advertisement-365/

It really works!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Totally OT, but since I know Dan loves the homeopathy <a href='http://drboli.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/advertisement-365/' rel='nofollow'>http://drboli.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/advertisement-365/</a></p>
	<p>It really works!
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		<title>by: corinoco</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5181</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:23:35 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5181</guid>
					<description>'Make a magnetic generator!' (What? You mean a &lt;i&gt;magnet&lt;/i&gt;?) The picture is great - scientist-type in white coat (so you &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt; he's smart) twiddles knobs on what looks like, well, an air-conditioning chiller plant. He rates his own site at 5/5 stars, by the way. It has a 'Certificate of Guarantee' &lt;i&gt;right there on his site!&lt;/i&gt; Pay only $49! Save $150! Regular price $197! Umm... hang on, that's not right. Oh, of course, he's using &lt;b&gt;overunity&lt;/b&gt; mathematics. My bad.

More banner ads: &quot;How I made $77 million in two years!&quot; Yeah, and you're taking out pay-per-click ads because it's just a hobby? Reminds you of old times when you had to scam micro-payments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>'Make a magnetic generator!' (What? You mean a <i>magnet</i>?) The picture is great - scientist-type in white coat (so you <i>know</i> he's smart) twiddles knobs on what looks like, well, an air-conditioning chiller plant. He rates his own site at 5/5 stars, by the way. It has a 'Certificate of Guarantee' <i>right there on his site!</i> Pay only $49! Save $150! Regular price $197! Umm... hang on, that's not right. Oh, of course, he's using <b>overunity</b> mathematics. My bad.</p>
	<p>More banner ads: "How I made $77 million in two years!" Yeah, and you're taking out pay-per-click ads because it's just a hobby? Reminds you of old times when you had to scam micro-payments?
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		<title>by: byatch</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5180</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:47:51 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm a big fan of the ad that goes on to say that their Free Energy System is, and I quote, &quot;Best Free Energy Solution&quot;. 
It thrills me to know that not only is their product capable of producing free energy, but better still, they have tested and benchmarked it against other market leaders, only to come out on top!

I would like to see their results, if they don't mind....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I'm a big fan of the ad that goes on to say that their Free Energy System is, and I quote, "Best Free Energy Solution".<br />
It thrills me to know that not only is their product capable of producing free energy, but better still, they have tested and benchmarked it against other market leaders, only to come out on top!</p>
	<p>I would like to see their results, if they don't mind....
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		<title>by: Daniel Rutter</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5174</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:50:17 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5174</guid>
					<description>Oh, yeah - there are some corkers in the ads, aren't there?

I picked one at random (and copied and pasted the URL, so as to avoid clicking on my own ads, which is a big no-no), and found myself reading all about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.magniwork-review.com/how_magniwork_works.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;magnificently simple&lt;/a&gt; &quot;Magniwork&quot; electric generator. Which &quot;creates 24 kilowatts of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=&amp;quot;power+and+energy+are+not+the+same&amp;quot;&quot;&gt;power&lt;/a&gt; per day on average&quot;, don't you know!

You know you're looking at a quality perpetual motion machine when even PESWiki &lt;a href=&quot;http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Magniwork&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;calls it a scam&lt;/a&gt;!

(The PESWiki article currently says Magniwork is a scam mainly because it's a poor copy of a different system, which in turn has never been shown to work. But that different system is still &quot;interesting science&quot;, according to PESWiki's eternal optimists...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, yeah - there are some corkers in the ads, aren't there?</p>
	<p>I picked one at random (and copied and pasted the URL, so as to avoid clicking on my own ads, which is a big no-no), and found myself reading all about the <a href="http://www.magniwork-review.com/how_magniwork_works.html" rel="nofollow">magnificently simple</a> "Magniwork" electric generator. Which "creates 24 kilowatts of <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;q=&quot;power+and+energy+are+not+the+same&quot;">power</a> per day on average", don't you know!</p>
	<p>You know you're looking at a quality perpetual motion machine when even PESWiki <a href="http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Magniwork" rel="nofollow">calls it a scam</a>!</p>
	<p>(The PESWiki article currently says Magniwork is a scam mainly because it's a poor copy of a different system, which in turn has never been shown to work. But that different system is still "interesting science", according to PESWiki's eternal optimists...)
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		<title>by: Popup</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5173</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:52:20 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>(I suppose it's not surprising that I was served Free Elecricity ads by google...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>(I suppose it's not surprising that I was served Free Elecricity ads by google...)
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		<title>by: TwoHedWlf</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5172</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:51:44 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>That's a good question, Popup.  If we assume they are, in fact, sane...The only options really are 1: That they are scammers that don't believe it works in which case they're idiots for letting it be genuinely tested.  Or 2: They genuinely believed it works, but never properly tested it themselves to see if it would work.  In which cares they're idiots.

I guess you could say there's 3: They tested it themselves and it did work, but the engineers testing it broke it.  Hahaha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That's a good question, Popup.  If we assume they are, in fact, sane...The only options really are 1: That they are scammers that don't believe it works in which case they're idiots for letting it be genuinely tested.  Or 2: They genuinely believed it works, but never properly tested it themselves to see if it would work.  In which cares they're idiots.</p>
	<p>I guess you could say there's 3: They tested it themselves and it did work, but the engineers testing it broke it.  Hahaha...
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		<title>by: Popup</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5171</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:33:15 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm wondering whether the Steorn people actually believed in their contraption. Why on earth would they otherwise have agreed to have their device inspected by engineers?

At the time I thought it was a simple publicity stunt for an old dot.com bubble revival, and that the directors were drumming up enough interest in the company to be able to sell their shares without too big losses. But now, three years later, it's still the same people in the drivers seat. Weird.
(Although I must say that I like the theory that it was a simple publicity stunt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I'm wondering whether the Steorn people actually believed in their contraption. Why on earth would they otherwise have agreed to have their device inspected by engineers?</p>
	<p>At the time I thought it was a simple publicity stunt for an old dot.com bubble revival, and that the directors were drumming up enough interest in the company to be able to sell their shares without too big losses. But now, three years later, it's still the same people in the drivers seat. Weird.<br />
(Although I must say that I like the theory that it was a simple publicity stunt
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		<title>by: reyalp</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5169</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:05:22 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Ah well, there's still &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blacklightpower.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blacklight Power&lt;/a&gt;. That one has to be legit, right ?!? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ah well, there's still <a href="http://www.blacklightpower.com/" rel="nofollow">Blacklight Power</a>. That one has to be legit, right ?!? ;)
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		<title>by: Jono4174</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5167</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:29:48 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5167</guid>
					<description>But Red October, thermodynamics is ONLY A THEORY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>But Red October, thermodynamics is ONLY A THEORY.
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		<title>by: Red October</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/if-only-steorn-had-been-taking-bets/#comment-5166</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:09:20 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>It's been long known to learned people that you can't break the laws of thermodynamics to get free engergy.  However it's been longer known that you can pull the wool over the eyes of the stupid to get free money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It's been long known to learned people that you can't break the laws of thermodynamics to get free engergy.  However it's been longer known that you can pull the wool over the eyes of the stupid to get free money.
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