Comments on: The Anti-Randi Marching Band http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/ the blog that is not dansdata.com Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:35:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Garrison http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-5535 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:48:44 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-5535 And, with apologies to the late Walter Cronkite, that's the way it was. And, with apologies to the late Walter Cronkite, that's the way it was.

]]> by: Daniel Rutter http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4809 Sun, 10 May 2009 03:17:54 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4809 (I made my reply to Jock into <a href="/2009/05/09/im-still-waiting-for-mail-from-jenny-mccarthy/">another post</a>.) (I made my reply to Jock into another post.)

]]> by: jockdoubleday http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4802 Sat, 09 May 2009 05:01:31 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4802 Hi Dan, If you want to link to my actual vaccine challenge, as opposed to a psychopath's lies and speculations about it, you can link to this URL: http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/$75,000VaccineOffer.htm Have a vaccine-free day! In health, Jock Doubleday Director Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc. A California 501(c)3 Nonprofit Corporation http://www.SpontaneousCreation.org director@spontaneouscreation.org Jock Doubleday is the author of "Spontaneous Creation: 101 Reasons Not to Have Your Baby in a Hospital, Vol 1: A Book about Natural Childbirth and the Birth of Wisdom and Power in Childbearing Women" Hi Dan,

If you want to link to my actual vaccine challenge, as opposed to a psychopath's lies and speculations about it, you can link to this URL:

http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/$75,000VaccineOffer.htm

Have a vaccine-free day!

In health,

Jock Doubleday
Director
Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc.
A California 501(c)3 Nonprofit Corporation
http://www.SpontaneousCreation.org
director@spontaneouscreation.org

Jock Doubleday is the author of
"Spontaneous Creation:
101 Reasons Not to Have Your Baby in a Hospital, Vol 1:
A Book about Natural Childbirth and the Birth of Wisdom and Power in Childbearing Women"

]]> by: shimavak http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4783 Sun, 03 May 2009 03:49:22 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4783 @Matt-S Not to be entirely pedantic, but the neutron only makes up (at most) 13% of the known baryonic matter that isn't electrons. Hydrogen-1 is about 74% of all nuclear matter in the known universe, Helium-4 comes in at 24% (but half of that is protons, so neutron composition sits at 13%), and on down the list to less relevant totals. (Of course electrons have to be in nearly the same abundance as protons, the universe is not charged, after all...) This is, of course, ignoring the fact that visible baryonic matter is only ~4.6% of the mass/energy known to exist in the universe. The rest is all dark to us. All in all though, your point is quite right, science relishes in the opportunity to be proven wrong. After all, as Asimov said: "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!', but 'That's funny ...'" @Matt-S

Not to be entirely pedantic, but the neutron only makes up (at most) 13% of the known baryonic matter that isn't electrons. Hydrogen-1 is about 74% of all nuclear matter in the known universe, Helium-4 comes in at 24% (but half of that is protons, so neutron composition sits at 13%), and on down the list to less relevant totals. (Of course electrons have to be in nearly the same abundance as protons, the universe is not charged, after all...)

This is, of course, ignoring the fact that visible baryonic matter is only ~4.6% of the mass/energy known to exist in the universe. The rest is all dark to us.

All in all though, your point is quite right, science relishes in the opportunity to be proven wrong. After all, as Asimov said: "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!', but 'That's funny ...'"

]]> by: Matt-S http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4780 Sat, 02 May 2009 23:41:43 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4780 I hope that someone eventually wins the challenge. I suspect if it ever happens, it'll be something that a few years later we then manage to explain with science. I suppose I come down on the sceptic side, but I do remind myself that 100 years ago we didn't know the neutron existed, something which makes up 49.99% of all matter. So who knows what we might discover tomorrow, maybe the Tachyon and then we'll be able to travel faster than light, or maybe there really is some other dimension in which we're all somehow connected. But it does seem pretty apparent right now that anyone who thinks they can tap into such a place are wrong. I hope that someone eventually wins the challenge. I suspect if it ever happens, it'll be something that a few years later we then manage to explain with science.
I suppose I come down on the sceptic side, but I do remind myself that 100 years ago we didn't know the neutron existed, something which makes up 49.99% of all matter. So who knows what we might discover tomorrow, maybe the Tachyon and then we'll be able to travel faster than light, or maybe there really is some other dimension in which we're all somehow connected. But it does seem pretty apparent right now that anyone who thinks they can tap into such a place are wrong.

]]> by: wbeaty http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4749 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:53:08 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4749 That reminds me, I wonder if Randi has good tech advisors with that "eye beams" claim. It's pretty clear to me that Colin Ross is pulling a fast one by harnessing skeptics' quick assumption that opponents are stupid. Ross seems to be claiming only that, if you use a high-Z preamp, then EEG signals can be detected within a cm or two of your head. (And then he builds the electrodes into goggles.) This sounds like totally conventional capacitive coupling, therefore easily demonstrated ...therefore won't Ross win the money? "Energy beams" in the form of e-fields really do radiate from skin. If the AC e-field is any stronger near wet saline holes in insulating skin (eyes, mouth, open wounds,) won't Ross still win the money? The skeptic position isn't clear, but perhaps it ignores voltage-physics and assumes that EEG is a current, therefore should only be sensed by electrodes in contact with skin. Bad move. Maybe 1e6 dollars bad. That reminds me, I wonder if Randi has good tech advisors with that "eye beams" claim. It's pretty clear to me that Colin Ross is pulling a fast one by harnessing skeptics' quick assumption that opponents are stupid. Ross seems to be claiming only that, if you use a high-Z preamp, then EEG signals can be detected within a cm or two of your head. (And then he builds the electrodes into goggles.) This sounds like totally conventional capacitive coupling, therefore easily demonstrated ...therefore won't Ross win the money? "Energy beams" in the form of e-fields really do radiate from skin. If the AC e-field is any stronger near wet saline holes in insulating skin (eyes, mouth, open wounds,) won't Ross still win the money? The skeptic position isn't clear, but perhaps it ignores voltage-physics and assumes that EEG is a current, therefore should only be sensed by electrodes in contact with skin. Bad move. Maybe 1e6 dollars bad.

]]> by: TwoHedWlf http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4717 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 05:37:46 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4717 All of the above also applies with little modification to car fan sites. Good luck convincing an S2K driver that X domestic costs less, has a better power-weight and handles better and so on. All of the above also applies with little modification to car fan sites. Good luck convincing an S2K driver that X domestic costs less, has a better power-weight and handles better and so on.

]]> by: auraseer http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4716 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:17:34 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4716 Man. This kind of stuff is why I should never go egosurfing for my username. Man. This kind of stuff is why I should never go egosurfing for my username.

]]> by: adrian http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4715 Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:00:03 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4715 I have to admit, I looked at the nudey picture... I have to admit, I looked at the nudey picture...

]]> by: aquaman http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4713 Tue, 14 Apr 2009 07:21:34 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/04/13/the-anti-randi-marching-band/#comment-4713 When I hear the word "quantum" in a newspaper, that's when I reach for my browning. When I hear the word "quantum" in a newspaper, that's when I reach for my browning.

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