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		<title>by: computersolutions</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-4178</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm happier with your second reply, as its less knee jerk than the first; 

I've always said to people think before you post, not post before you think.

I personally thought it was on topic given the subject matter, and the comments.

Its your blog, not mine.  If you feel its off topic, then feel free to delete the post.

Up to you though.

I'll still keep reading the blog+dansdata for your caustic wit, and keep commenting when appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I'm happier with your second reply, as its less knee jerk than the first; </p>
	<p>I've always said to people think before you post, not post before you think.</p>
	<p>I personally thought it was on topic given the subject matter, and the comments.</p>
	<p>Its your blog, not mine.  If you feel its off topic, then feel free to delete the post.</p>
	<p>Up to you though.</p>
	<p>I'll still keep reading the blog+dansdata for your caustic wit, and keep commenting when appropriate.
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		<title>by: Daniel Rutter</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-4177</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-4177</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;Where does Ben Elton come into it? (ahh 4th comment).&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah... the one you were replying to. Or did you just accidentally type &quot;@Itsacon&quot; at the beginning of your comment?

&lt;i&gt;Did you actually read the links there at the UoW site?&lt;/i&gt;

I am not an epidemiologist, a virologist, or an expert on AIDS. People who &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; epidemiologists, virologists and/or experts on AIDS generally consider the African-polio-vaccine transmission theory weak, for &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPV_AIDS_hypothesis#Scientific_investigation&quot;&gt;several reasons&lt;/a&gt;. I am unqualified to judge their assessment of the evidence pro and con; unless I'm going to sink a few months into getting a basic grounding in AIDS epidemiology, there's no point playing &quot;duelling experts&quot; on the Internet when nobody knows much about the argument they're so eager to join.

And none of this has anything at all to do with the matter at hand. Let's assume that the African polio vaccine &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; just crawling with SIV or HIV or both - so what? What's that got to do with modern AIDS denialism or the anti-vaccination movement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Where does Ben Elton come into it? (ahh 4th comment).</i></p>
	<p>Yeah... the one you were replying to. Or did you just accidentally type "@Itsacon" at the beginning of your comment?</p>
	<p><i>Did you actually read the links there at the UoW site?</i></p>
	<p>I am not an epidemiologist, a virologist, or an expert on AIDS. People who <i>are</i> epidemiologists, virologists and/or experts on AIDS generally consider the African-polio-vaccine transmission theory weak, for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPV_AIDS_hypothesis#Scientific_investigation">several reasons</a>. I am unqualified to judge their assessment of the evidence pro and con; unless I'm going to sink a few months into getting a basic grounding in AIDS epidemiology, there's no point playing "duelling experts" on the Internet when nobody knows much about the argument they're so eager to join.</p>
	<p>And none of this has anything at all to do with the matter at hand. Let's assume that the African polio vaccine <i>was</i> just crawling with SIV or HIV or both - so what? What's that got to do with modern AIDS denialism or the anti-vaccination movement?
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		<title>by: computersolutions</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-4176</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-4176</guid>
					<description>Oh, I don't know Dan, maybe I must be a kook eh, because its post about AID's, most of the comments are for / against vaccination, it would be tangentally interesting to the conversation.

Where does Ben Elton come into it?  (ahh 4th comment).

Did you actually read the links there at the UoW site?  Its actually quite a lot less crazy than you'd think.

Go ahead flame away ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, I don't know Dan, maybe I must be a kook eh, because its post about AID's, most of the comments are for / against vaccination, it would be tangentally interesting to the conversation.</p>
	<p>Where does Ben Elton come into it?  (ahh 4th comment).</p>
	<p>Did you actually read the links there at the UoW site?  Its actually quite a lot less crazy than you'd think.</p>
	<p>Go ahead flame away ;)
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		<title>by: Daniel Rutter</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-4175</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-4175</guid>
					<description>So if any of you guys were considering getting a polio vaccination in the Belgian Congo in 1959, be aware that &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPV_AIDS_hypothesis&quot;&gt;some people&lt;/a&gt; think that would have been a bad idea! Thanks, man!

(Honestly, where do these people come from? Do they just scan pages for keywords and then weigh in with their irrelevant opinion about AIDS or creationism or Greece-versus-Turkey or whatever? WTF does a shaky theory about contamination of oral vaccines 50 years ago have to do with a book by Ben Elton that's set in the future?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So if any of you guys were considering getting a polio vaccination in the Belgian Congo in 1959, be aware that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPV_AIDS_hypothesis">some people</a> think that would have been a bad idea! Thanks, man!</p>
	<p>(Honestly, where do these people come from? Do they just scan pages for keywords and then weigh in with their irrelevant opinion about AIDS or creationism or Greece-versus-Turkey or whatever? WTF does a shaky theory about contamination of oral vaccines 50 years ago have to do with a book by Ben Elton that's set in the future?)
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		<title>by: computersolutions</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-4173</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-4173</guid>
					<description>@Itsacon -

There is considerable data that the AID's virus was most probably passed onto humans by the widespread polio vaccinations of the 50's in sub-saharan africa.


See here - http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/ for a good round up on most of those.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@Itsacon -</p>
	<p>There is considerable data that the AID's virus was most probably passed onto humans by the widespread polio vaccinations of the 50's in sub-saharan africa.</p>
	<p>See here - <a href='http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/</a> for a good round up on most of those.
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		<title>by: Stark</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-3947</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@arteitle - Quite right, Kawasaki is not linked to seizures, my mistake.  However, he did have a serious seizure condition and his parents did take him off of anti-seizure meds due to Scientology.  So, stupidity kills again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@arteitle - Quite right, Kawasaki is not linked to seizures, my mistake.  However, he did have a serious seizure condition and his parents did take him off of anti-seizure meds due to Scientology.  So, stupidity kills again.
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		<title>by: arteitle</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-3944</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-3944</guid>
					<description>#6 Stark: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_disease&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kawasaki disease&lt;/a&gt; doesn't cause neurological problems like seizures, but epilepsy is sometimes associated with &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;autism&lt;/a&gt;, which it's been suggested Jett suffered from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#6 Stark: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_disease" rel="nofollow">Kawasaki disease</a> doesn't cause neurological problems like seizures, but epilepsy is sometimes associated with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism" rel="nofollow">autism</a>, which it's been suggested Jett suffered from.
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		<title>by: Chazzozz</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-3943</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@frasera -- I read that novel and it scared me because of the parallels that can be drawn from today's society.  It's not hard to imagine a world in the near future that turns out just like in the book.

As for the nay-sayers against vaccination, I've actually known a family who suffered the consequences of a bad reaction to a vaccine.  It was devastating to see how their child ended up for the rest her life.  But, that didn't stop me from vaccinating my own children...for I've also seen the consequences of children (several, in fact) who &lt;em&gt;weren't&lt;/em&gt; protected and ended up contracting some awful, but very preventable, diseases.  I've known far more kids who have been killed or permanently affected by these diseases than the vaccines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@frasera -- I read that novel and it scared me because of the parallels that can be drawn from today's society.  It's not hard to imagine a world in the near future that turns out just like in the book.</p>
	<p>As for the nay-sayers against vaccination, I've actually known a family who suffered the consequences of a bad reaction to a vaccine.  It was devastating to see how their child ended up for the rest her life.  But, that didn't stop me from vaccinating my own children...for I've also seen the consequences of children (several, in fact) who <em>weren't</em> protected and ended up contracting some awful, but very preventable, diseases.  I've known far more kids who have been killed or permanently affected by these diseases than the vaccines.
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		<title>by: Gareth Pye</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-3942</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Two of my favorite African AIDS concepts:
A) witch doctors who prescribe sex with virgins as the cure for AIDS
B) The catholic bishop who claims that AIDS is caused by the international companies smearing the virus on condoms. Naturally this is done as apart of the conspiracy to wipe out the African people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Two of my favorite African AIDS concepts:<br />
A) witch doctors who prescribe sex with virgins as the cure for AIDS<br />
B) The catholic bishop who claims that AIDS is caused by the international companies smearing the virus on condoms. Naturally this is done as apart of the conspiracy to wipe out the African people.
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		<title>by: Garett Smith</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2009/01/05/sometimes-stupidity-is-painful/#comment-3941</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I didn't realise that the Foo Fighters were Christine Maggiore supporters and AIDS denialists. It really irks me that because somebody has the ability to create popular music or act in a movie / tv series, that somehow qualifies them to be an authority on subjects ranging from the cause of AIDS to the technical safety of importing types of hydrocarbons into California. :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I didn't realise that the Foo Fighters were Christine Maggiore supporters and AIDS denialists. It really irks me that because somebody has the ability to create popular music or act in a movie / tv series, that somehow qualifies them to be an authority on subjects ranging from the cause of AIDS to the technical safety of importing types of hydrocarbons into California. :/
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