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	<title>Comments on: It'll be heavy water next</title>
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		<title>by: Jonadab</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3880</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>At least NaK isn't shock-sensitive, nor environmentally dangerous, nor particularly toxic to biological systems, nor is it particularly likely to react with the metal tubing.  All in all the thing's actually fairly safe.

But yeah, you probably don't want to crack it open and pour the contents into the kitchen sink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>At least NaK isn't shock-sensitive, nor environmentally dangerous, nor particularly toxic to biological systems, nor is it particularly likely to react with the metal tubing.  All in all the thing's actually fairly safe.</p>
	<p>But yeah, you probably don't want to crack it open and pour the contents into the kitchen sink.
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		<title>by: tobyc</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3769</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3769</guid>
					<description>I don't think the use of NaK in reactors is &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; to do with its nuclear properties: as I recall from my Mech Eng days, it's something to do with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prandtl_number&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prandtl Number&lt;/a&gt; of the substance - a dimensionless number which incorporates density, specific heat capacity, viscosity and thermal conductivity. The lower the number, I think, the better suited the fluid is to a slow-moving (ie predominantly conductive) coolant circuit - and liquid metals have much lower Prandtl numbers than water.

It's too late at night for me to do any calculations, but... Oh! Or is it the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nusselt_number&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nusselt number&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don't think the use of NaK in reactors is <em>all</em> to do with its nuclear properties: as I recall from my Mech Eng days, it's something to do with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prandtl_number" rel="nofollow">Prandtl Number</a> of the substance - a dimensionless number which incorporates density, specific heat capacity, viscosity and thermal conductivity. The lower the number, I think, the better suited the fluid is to a slow-moving (ie predominantly conductive) coolant circuit - and liquid metals have much lower Prandtl numbers than water.</p>
	<p>It's too late at night for me to do any calculations, but... Oh! Or is it the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nusselt_number" rel="nofollow">Nusselt number</a>?
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		<title>by: SparkyTWD</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3741</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In the early days of the US Naval nuclear reactor program, one of the first engineering problems they needed to solve was coolant choice.  A reactor with a water coolant loop was installed in the first nuclear submarine &quot;Nautilus&quot;, and one with a NaK coolant loop was installed in the second &quot;Seawolf&quot;.  I can't find the exact quote, but the director of the project Hyman Rickover, said something along the lines of &quot;If the ocean was made of sodium and potassium, some idiot would want to put a water cooled reactor on a submarine&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In the early days of the US Naval nuclear reactor program, one of the first engineering problems they needed to solve was coolant choice.  A reactor with a water coolant loop was installed in the first nuclear submarine "Nautilus", and one with a NaK coolant loop was installed in the second "Seawolf".  I can't find the exact quote, but the director of the project Hyman Rickover, said something along the lines of "If the ocean was made of sodium and potassium, some idiot would want to put a water cooled reactor on a submarine"
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		<title>by: Alex Whiteside</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3722</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>DBT: sodium and potassium ions are important in various biochemical processes (an Na/K pump of a wholly different kind is important in almost all cells IIRC). However the cooler works with sodium and potassium &lt;i&gt;metal&lt;/i&gt;. The metal atoms have a electron just lightly wafting around at their extremities, and will merrily give that up to pretty much absolutely anything to form the +1 ion. So they're good reducing agents, and correspondingly, they oxidise very easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>DBT: sodium and potassium ions are important in various biochemical processes (an Na/K pump of a wholly different kind is important in almost all cells IIRC). However the cooler works with sodium and potassium <i>metal</i>. The metal atoms have a electron just lightly wafting around at their extremities, and will merrily give that up to pretty much absolutely anything to form the +1 ion. So they're good reducing agents, and correspondingly, they oxidise very easily.
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		<title>by: DBT</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3721</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3721</guid>
					<description>Chemistry is not my strong point, but aren't Sodum and Potassium key ingredients for action potential in neuronal activity?

Why don't people explode when they think too much?

... or is that the secret of the &quot;Chewbacca Defense&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Chemistry is not my strong point, but aren't Sodum and Potassium key ingredients for action potential in neuronal activity?</p>
	<p>Why don't people explode when they think too much?</p>
	<p>... or is that the secret of the "Chewbacca Defense"?
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		<title>by: FuzzyPlushroom</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3718</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3718</guid>
					<description>If it were a fair bit cheaper, I'd totally use it. Just let someone &lt;i&gt;try&lt;/i&gt; to screw with my computer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If it were a fair bit cheaper, I'd totally use it. Just let someone <i>try</i> to screw with my computer!
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		<title>by: Alex Whiteside</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3716</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3716</guid>
					<description>I'd say a computer that refuses to die gracefully in an axe fight is a selling point to much of the cooler's target audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I'd say a computer that refuses to die gracefully in an axe fight is a selling point to much of the cooler's target audience.
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		<title>by: Ziggyinc</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3715</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oh, we have got to send one of these to Dan, cause I want to see him break one open to verify, that yes there is indeed a corrosive, flammable fluid inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, we have got to send one of these to Dan, cause I want to see him break one open to verify, that yes there is indeed a corrosive, flammable fluid inside.
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		<title>by: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3714</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>They're just preparing for the day that CPU dies are made from uranium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>They're just preparing for the day that CPU dies are made from uranium.
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		<title>by: Shadowdancer</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3713</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/12/07/itll-be-heavy-water-next/#comment-3713</guid>
					<description>Yeah, ClF_3 is fun. Did you read the safety sheet? It's absolutely hilarious to handle, as would be expected for a substance that was intended to burn down concrete bunkers. 

The electromagnetic pump has something going for it, since I suppose it potentially lasts pretty long, but then you'll need a fan as well. So in the end it's a pretty useless thing, at least until CPUs get well into the petahertz range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeah, ClF_3 is fun. Did you read the safety sheet? It's absolutely hilarious to handle, as would be expected for a substance that was intended to burn down concrete bunkers. </p>
	<p>The electromagnetic pump has something going for it, since I suppose it potentially lasts pretty long, but then you'll need a fan as well. So in the end it's a pretty useless thing, at least until CPUs get well into the petahertz range.
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