Comments on: News flash: Fuel cell even more forgettable than I thought! http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/09/09/news-flash-fuel-cell-even-more-forgettable-than-i-thought/ the blog that is not dansdata.com Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:58:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: VMax http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/09/09/news-flash-fuel-cell-even-more-forgettable-than-i-thought/#comment-2998 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:33:23 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/09/09/news-flash-fuel-cell-even-more-forgettable-than-i-thought/#comment-2998 It's still power at the crank, but it's net rather than gross - i.e. when they measure it, there's a standard inlet with air filter, exhaust, alternator etc etc connected. Gross measurement (which was used until sometime in the 70s I think?) is just the engine on a sort of life support system. It's still power at the crank, but it's net rather than gross - i.e. when they measure it, there's a standard inlet with air filter, exhaust, alternator etc etc connected. Gross measurement (which was used until sometime in the 70s I think?) is just the engine on a sort of life support system.

]]> by: Gareth Pye http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/09/09/news-flash-fuel-cell-even-more-forgettable-than-i-thought/#comment-2997 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:32:59 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/09/09/news-flash-fuel-cell-even-more-forgettable-than-i-thought/#comment-2997 Nikola, depends on the car. Some of your higher power cars have been known to quote power at the wheels because they don't like to quote stupidly high numbers. Also it lets them get out of direct comparisons. Nikola, depends on the car. Some of your higher power cars have been known to quote power at the wheels because they don't like to quote stupidly high numbers. Also it lets them get out of direct comparisons.

]]> by: Nikola http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/09/09/news-flash-fuel-cell-even-more-forgettable-than-i-thought/#comment-2996 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:29:21 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/09/09/news-flash-fuel-cell-even-more-forgettable-than-i-thought/#comment-2996 Maybe it's different down under, but aren't car HP's (at least in NorthAmerica) still power-at-the-crank? My Subaru WRX is rated at 227HP, but it's usually dynoed at 180ish at the wheels... Maybe it's different down under, but aren't car HP's (at least in NorthAmerica) still power-at-the-crank? My Subaru WRX is rated at 227HP, but it's usually dynoed at 180ish at the wheels...

]]> by: Techskeptic http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/09/09/news-flash-fuel-cell-even-more-forgettable-than-i-thought/#comment-2994 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:41:05 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/09/09/news-flash-fuel-cell-even-more-forgettable-than-i-thought/#comment-2994 Thanks dan! I've never been written up before! Some finer points: I did not test the latest and 'greatest' units that came off the fully automated line. There is no way to know which ones come off that line. further they have flip flopped back and forth whether to not they have made any actual improvements to the device. There is plenty of fuel to accomodate the losses from the DC converter in the unit. Their problem is that the fuel and electrolyte don't get utilized well due to the design of the box. I have no idea if they took my suggestions on how to fix those problems. Doesnt matter, even if they get what they claim its still a huge expensive box that puts out a ridiculously low amount of power. Thanks dan! I've never been written up before!

Some finer points:
I did not test the latest and 'greatest' units that came off the fully automated line. There is no way to know which ones come off that line. further they have flip flopped back and forth whether to not they have made any actual improvements to the device.

There is plenty of fuel to accomodate the losses from the DC converter in the unit. Their problem is that the fuel and electrolyte don't get utilized well due to the design of the box. I have no idea if they took my suggestions on how to fix those problems.

Doesnt matter, even if they get what they claim its still a huge expensive box that puts out a ridiculously low amount of power.

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