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	<title>Comments on: We&#8217;re still talking about fuel catalysts? Really?</title>
	<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Daniel Rutter</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1855</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I fixed the links. I consider fixing that stuff to be the price I pay for providing a crappy no-preview textbox for comments :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I fixed the links. I consider fixing that stuff to be the price I pay for providing a crappy no-preview textbox for comments :-).
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		<title>by: Alan</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1854</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1854</guid>
					<description>So much for trying to add a link...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So much for trying to add a link&#8230;
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		<title>by: AlanO</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1853</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oops.  Ok, I had a &quot;Senior Moment&quot;.
But I think my point is valid- between a more efficient fuel and a more efficient engine, I'm less likely to dismiss the engine.

Damn.  Now I have images of hybrid &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keveney.com/otto.html&quot;&gt;Otto&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keveney.com/Vstirling.html&quot;&gt;Stirling&lt;/a&gt; engines whirling around. Maybe I should make an animation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oops.  Ok, I had a &#8220;Senior Moment&#8221;.<br />
But I think my point is valid- between a more efficient fuel and a more efficient engine, I&#8217;m less likely to dismiss the engine.</p>
	<p>Damn.  Now I have images of hybrid <a href="http://www.keveney.com/otto.html">Otto</a> and <a href="http://www.keveney.com/Vstirling.html">Stirling</a> engines whirling around. Maybe I should make an animation.
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		<title>by: Daniel Rutter</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1844</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No, man - the Kettering cycle. For engines with Bussard-Jeffries ignition nacelles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No, man - the Kettering cycle. For engines with Bussard-Jeffries ignition nacelles.
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		<title>by: arteitle</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1843</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Kettering cycle&quot;? Don't you mean &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-stroke_engine&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Otto cycle&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Kettering cycle&#8221;? Don&#8217;t you mean <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-stroke_engine" rel="nofollow">Otto cycle</a>?
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		<title>by: Alan</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1834</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Just saying that absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence...&quot; and just because every Santa I've seen is a fake, doesn't mean there isn't a REAL Santa Claus at the North Pole. 

It's mighty hard to prove a negative. But I would offer this: How do the oil companies control EVERY effective fuel additive? 

No- if there is any improvement in efficiency to be made, I'd suggest a re-design of the basic 4-stroke Kettering cycle engine itself is required. Perhaps incorporating aspects of the Stirling engine, or even the triple expansion chamber system of steam engines. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Just saying that absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence&#8230;&#8221; and just because every Santa I&#8217;ve seen is a fake, doesn&#8217;t mean there isn&#8217;t a REAL Santa Claus at the North Pole. </p>
	<p>It&#8217;s mighty hard to prove a negative. But I would offer this: How do the oil companies control EVERY effective fuel additive? </p>
	<p>No- if there is any improvement in efficiency to be made, I&#8217;d suggest a re-design of the basic 4-stroke Kettering cycle engine itself is required. Perhaps incorporating aspects of the Stirling engine, or even the triple expansion chamber system of steam engines.
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		<title>by: Jax184</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1832</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 02:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>...

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	<p>No.
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		<title>by: Odeen</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1831</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Umm..  if the oil conspiracy is alive and well, then these ineffective &quot;catalysts&quot; are released to distract us, and to make us believe that the effective ones do not exist.

Isn't that what the oil conspiracy would WANT the consumers to think?  &quot;War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia, cars that can sit 5 185cm tall people always use 11L/100km fuel&quot;

Just saying that absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence.  For all we know, there are hulking pickups out there that use less gas than a Smartcar, but no one except oil company execs know about them, and their creators have been effectively silenced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Umm..  if the oil conspiracy is alive and well, then these ineffective &#8220;catalysts&#8221; are released to distract us, and to make us believe that the effective ones do not exist.</p>
	<p>Isn&#8217;t that what the oil conspiracy would WANT the consumers to think?  &#8220;War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia, cars that can sit 5 185cm tall people always use 11L/100km fuel&#8221;</p>
	<p>Just saying that absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence.  For all we know, there are hulking pickups out there that use less gas than a Smartcar, but no one except oil company execs know about them, and their creators have been effectively silenced.
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		<title>by: robzy</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1829</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have also sent in a Publication Information Request form. Interesting to see what happens.

Rob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have also sent in a Publication Information Request form. Interesting to see what happens.</p>
	<p>Rob.
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		<title>by: jakes</title>
		<link>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1827</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/01/07/were-still-talking-about-fuel-catalysts-really/#comment-1827</guid>
					<description>I particularly liked this on Dr Dingle's site:
'Dr Dingle's passion is to live to 140 healthily'.
Also, he's associate prof and 'leading researcher' in Health and the Environment at Murdoch (not a chemist or physicist) - so I'm not sure how well placed he is to be making claims about the efficacy of the Fuel Saver. In fact, having looked quickly at the report he doesn't appear to have tested the device himself at all (surprised, anyone?) but just summarised test results from elsewhere. And the Australian tests referred to appear to amount to 'tests' on a single vehicle by a 'private taxi company' (although there might be more but I couldn't be bothered wasting my time reading the whole thing). The whole thing just shouts snake oil (although the SMH apparently doesn't think so - when will they learn?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I particularly liked this on Dr Dingle&#8217;s site:<br />
&#8216;Dr Dingle&#8217;s passion is to live to 140 healthily&#8217;.<br />
Also, he&#8217;s associate prof and &#8216;leading researcher&#8217; in Health and the Environment at Murdoch (not a chemist or physicist) - so I&#8217;m not sure how well placed he is to be making claims about the efficacy of the Fuel Saver. In fact, having looked quickly at the report he doesn&#8217;t appear to have tested the device himself at all (surprised, anyone?) but just summarised test results from elsewhere. And the Australian tests referred to appear to amount to &#8216;tests&#8217; on a single vehicle by a &#8216;private taxi company&#8217; (although there might be more but I couldn&#8217;t be bothered wasting my time reading the whole thing). The whole thing just shouts snake oil (although the SMH apparently doesn&#8217;t think so - when will they learn?)
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