Comments on: DirectX redux http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/ the blog that is not dansdata.com Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:05:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Daniel Rutter http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1600 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:03:07 +0000 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1600 No - there are separate 8-series driver packages for WinXP, as well. And there's not really anything very "unified" about the driver packages from Nvidia or ATI. They're just big packages of separate drivers for different cards, so people don't have to look for a special (though smaller) individual driver for whatever they happen to have. Until recently, the one 40Mb or so Nvidia driver download contained drivers for everything back to the TNT. When you run the installer, it just installs whichever of the numerous separate drivers available suits your video card. No - there are separate 8-series driver packages for WinXP, as well.

And there's not really anything very "unified" about the driver packages from Nvidia or ATI. They're just big packages of separate drivers for different cards, so people don't have to look for a special (though smaller) individual driver for whatever they happen to have.

Until recently, the one 40Mb or so Nvidia driver download contained drivers for everything back to the TNT. When you run the installer, it just installs whichever of the numerous separate drivers available suits your video card.

]]> by: Joe Bloggs http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1598 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:06:50 +0000 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1598 Isn't the move to 8-series drivers much more likely to be caused by the Vista DRM-based bullshit that makes it impossible to make unified drivers again? Isn't the move to 8-series drivers much more likely to be caused by the Vista DRM-based bullshit that makes it impossible to make unified drivers again?

]]> by: RichVR http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1593 Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:38:21 +0000 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1593 My NYC comment wasn't directed at anyone. It was directed at the fact that I would love to volunteer at Free Geek in my home town and can not. Sorry for any confusion. My NYC comment wasn't directed at anyone. It was directed at the fact that I would love to volunteer at Free Geek in my home town and can not. Sorry for any confusion.

]]> by: twoflower http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1592 Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:24:41 +0000 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1592 Was a newer BIOS available for the card with the problems? Was a newer BIOS available for the card with the problems?

]]> by: Changes http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1591 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:55:29 +0000 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1591 RichVR: NYC? Where did that come from? I'm in Italy. (if the post wasn't directed to me, disregard this.) Dan: I'm happy you finally got it working, and I'm very very envious of your video card. Or, to say it more correctly, DO WANT! RichVR: NYC? Where did that come from? I'm in Italy. (if the post wasn't directed to me, disregard this.)

Dan: I'm happy you finally got it working, and I'm very very envious of your video card.
Or, to say it more correctly, DO WANT!

]]> by: Ziggyinc http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1590 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:24:30 +0000 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1590 I had a similar issue, DirectX detects no problems, but the 3D component is completely dead. 2D still works and audio is fine. Tried driver roll back and was given the finger on 3D again. Let me know if you solve it, for some reason my PC also gives me grief when i try to reinstall, booting from the XP CD just sends my puter into a black screen. I had a similar issue, DirectX detects no problems, but the 3D component is completely dead. 2D still works and audio is fine. Tried driver roll back and was given the finger on 3D again. Let me know if you solve it, for some reason my PC also gives me grief when i try to reinstall, booting from the XP CD just sends my puter into a black screen.

]]> by: Daniel Rutter http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1589 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:32:00 +0000 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1589 I just got the new video card (<i>and</i> Forged Alliance), and yes, it's solved the problem! All aspects of DirectX are working again. Of course, Direct3D - which one would think is a little more demanding than just scaling video - was working <i>anyway</i>. So who knows what the heck the problem actually was. I <i>am</i> inclined to think it had something to do with the card, but I'm buggered if I know what, since I know that if I reinstalled Windows from scratch again and kept the same video card I'd have had perfect Direct3D again... for a while. There's been one updated version of the GeForce 7-series drivers since <a href="/2007/10/01/new-nvidia-drivers-worth-having/">the last time</a> I updated, so I tried installing that yesterday; it did nothing. (The 8800 GT, of course, needs the <b>eight</b>-series drivers; Nvidia no longer provide every possible driver in the one package. The 8-series and 7-series driver packages are so suspiciously similar in size, and obviously share so many files, that this Division of the Drivers looks like marketing bulldust to me. "Look how amazing your new 8800 Whatever is! It needs a whole new driver package!") I just got the new video card (and Forged Alliance), and yes, it's solved the problem! All aspects of DirectX are working again.

Of course, Direct3D - which one would think is a little more demanding than just scaling video - was working anyway. So who knows what the heck the problem actually was.

I am inclined to think it had something to do with the card, but I'm buggered if I know what, since I know that if I reinstalled Windows from scratch again and kept the same video card I'd have had perfect Direct3D again... for a while.

There's been one updated version of the GeForce 7-series drivers since the last time I updated, so I tried installing that yesterday; it did nothing.

(The 8800 GT, of course, needs the eight-series drivers; Nvidia no longer provide every possible driver in the one package. The 8-series and 7-series driver packages are so suspiciously similar in size, and obviously share so many files, that this Division of the Drivers looks like marketing bulldust to me. "Look how amazing your new 8800 Whatever is! It needs a whole new driver package!")

]]> by: RichVR http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1588 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:12:14 +0000 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1588 No Free Geek in NYC? That sucks a large quantity of moose. No Free Geek in NYC? That sucks a large quantity of moose.

]]> by: Changes http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1587 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:40:28 +0000 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1587 Free Geek sounds like the stuff of my dreams. I don't care much for old ordinary computers, as I find they're more useful for their fans and PSUs (and screws...) than for their ability to actually compute anything, but old laptops are tremendously useful. Wish I had a place like that around here... *sigh* Free Geek sounds like the stuff of my dreams. I don't care much for old ordinary computers, as I find they're more useful for their fans and PSUs (and screws...) than for their ability to actually compute anything, but old laptops are tremendously useful. Wish I had a place like that around here... *sigh*

]]> by: Daniel Rutter http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1586 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 23:44:50 +0000 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2007/11/22/directx-redux/#comment-1586 I did that last time, and it didn't help at all. I did that last time, and it didn't help at all.

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