Comments on: Ultrasonic baby cleaning http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/ the blog that is not dansdata.com Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:35:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Daniel Rutter http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-7577 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:05:12 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-7577 Ultrawave make <i>good</i> ultrasonic cleaners. Mine is a <i>cheap</i> ultrasonic cleaner :-). Cheap cleaners never have high-powered transducers in them, since those are the expensive parts. If there's a reasonable amount of water in the cleaner, submerging your hand in it for even quite a long period of time is, I'm quite confident in saying, only marginally more dangerous than putting your hand in soda water. The baby in question is now approaching kindergarten age. His hands have yet to fall off. Ultrawave make good ultrasonic cleaners. Mine is a cheap ultrasonic cleaner :-).

Cheap cleaners never have high-powered transducers in them, since those are the expensive parts. If there's a reasonable amount of water in the cleaner, submerging your hand in it for even quite a long period of time is, I'm quite confident in saying, only marginally more dangerous than putting your hand in soda water.

The baby in question is now approaching kindergarten age. His hands have yet to fall off.

]]> by: gossumx http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-7576 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 03:58:26 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-7576 I did put my hand into my small ultrasonic cleaner that I got off amazon.com and it hurt with a tingly sensation. Maybe mine is stronger, but it doesn't seem safe. Well, after doing that I googled "hand in an ultrasonic cleaner", and I found this site (right below yours) in the search results. http://www.ultrawave.co.uk/faqs.php?id=16&amp;pa=57#17 It states that "It is advised that no part of the operator's body be submerged into the fluid during operation of the bath. Ultrasonic energy can cause damage to tjoint tissue, creating discomfort and skin irritation and even lead to long-term arthritic conditions." I'm not a scientist on the subject, but I would not advise this for a child until I saw someone else's scientific study. I did put my hand into my small ultrasonic cleaner that I got off amazon.com and it hurt with a tingly sensation.

Maybe mine is stronger, but it doesn't seem safe. Well, after doing that I googled "hand in an ultrasonic cleaner", and I found this site (right below yours) in the search results.

http://www.ultrawave.co.uk/faqs.php?id=16&pa=57#17

It states that "It is advised that no part of the operator's body be submerged into the fluid during operation of the bath. Ultrasonic energy can cause damage to tjoint tissue, creating discomfort and skin irritation and even lead to long-term arthritic conditions."

I'm not a scientist on the subject, but I would not advise this for a child until I saw someone else's scientific study.

]]> by: daveo http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-3183 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:11:53 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-3183 What the f#@$. Whatch the unisonics ultrasonic cleaner put holes in this foil: http://www.unisonics.com.au/Content_Common/pg-performance-test-foil.seo mayb your cleaner is underperforming. :- 0 What the f#@$. Whatch the unisonics ultrasonic cleaner put holes in this foil: http://www.unisonics.com.au/Content_Common/pg-performance-test-foil.seo
mayb your cleaner is underperforming. :- 0

]]> by: rsandor http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-691 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:33:48 +0000 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-691 This is a crazy idea. I've been told ultrasound kills cells. On my site we have an <a href="http://www.tovatech.com/transonic_step2TIHline.html" rel="nofollow">industrial model Elmasonic Transonic Ti-H ultrasonic cleaner</a>. I know when I put my hand in the cleaner, it hurts! I wonder how if the baby is in pain? Robert Sandor This is a crazy idea. I've been told ultrasound kills cells. On my site we have an industrial model Elmasonic Transonic Ti-H ultrasonic cleaner. I know when I put my hand in the cleaner, it hurts! I wonder how if the baby is in pain?
Robert Sandor

]]> by: sid http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-71 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:48:00 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-71 Hello dan.. love dansdata. Just a quick thought before you file your patent though. Exposure to ultrasound has been shown to cause epiphyseal plate (the growth plate) disruption in children who haven't acheived skeletal maturity. Be careful will ya. Cheers. Hello dan.. love dansdata. Just a quick thought before you file your patent though. Exposure to ultrasound has been shown to cause epiphyseal plate (the growth plate) disruption in children who haven't acheived skeletal maturity. Be careful will ya.

Cheers.

]]> by: Stark http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-63 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 05:24:05 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-63 It should be noted that ultrasound has been in theraputic medical use since the late 1940's. Not just as scanners but as therapy devices typically used for relievieng pain and stiffness associated with arthritis along with a number of other physical therapy applications. The transducers involved in most medical applications put out somewhere around 1 to 3W/cm2. So - from the photo it looks like the tank has a liter or so of liquid... which means that 50W input is spread through 1000cm3 which equals: .05W/cm3. So, if safe medical use (which admittedly does cause a reaction in tissues) allows for as much a 3W/cm2 and we're seeing around .05W/cm3... well, I'd say brief exposures are absolutely harmless. Now, I wouldn't leave my hand in there all day - it is likely that after long enough exposure it could begin to break down live skin and tissues - but I'd have no issues with up to 30 minutes or so... after that all you'd have is very clean hands (not a dead skin cell left on 'em I'd bet) but be none the worse for wear.... well, ok - you might have wrinkly fingers from the water. ;) Of course all bets are off if you use anyhting harsher than water. Stick your hand in an ultrasonic acetone bath and leave it there for 30 minutes and you'd most assuredly regret the decision. It should be noted that ultrasound has been in theraputic medical use since the late 1940's. Not just as scanners but as therapy devices typically used for relievieng pain and stiffness associated with arthritis along with a number of other physical therapy applications. The transducers involved in most medical applications put out somewhere around 1 to 3W/cm2. So - from the photo it looks like the tank has a liter or so of liquid... which means that 50W input is spread through 1000cm3 which equals: .05W/cm3.

So, if safe medical use (which admittedly does cause a reaction in tissues) allows for as much a 3W/cm2 and we're seeing around .05W/cm3... well, I'd say brief exposures are absolutely harmless. Now, I wouldn't leave my hand in there all day - it is likely that after long enough exposure it could begin to break down live skin and tissues - but I'd have no issues with up to 30 minutes or so... after that all you'd have is very clean hands (not a dead skin cell left on 'em I'd bet) but be none the worse for wear.... well, ok - you might have wrinkly fingers from the water. ;)

Of course all bets are off if you use anyhting harsher than water. Stick your hand in an ultrasonic acetone bath and leave it there for 30 minutes and you'd most assuredly regret the decision.

]]> by: drzaius http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-62 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 05:13:21 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-62 I believe you may be on to someting here. In the name of science, you must get a large cleaner &amp; a chicken leg &amp; then report back I believe you may be on to someting here. In the name of science, you must get a large cleaner & a chicken leg & then report back

]]> by: jaranath http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-61 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 04:31:50 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-61 Thomas' expression is priceless, especially right after "I think you can see where this is going." I hope Ozzie and Sonicare are indeed "overcautious" about the risk of joint injury, though I admit I'll be a bit more hesitant to engage in my own bouts of unconventional infant cleansing. Thomas' expression is priceless, especially right after "I think you can see where this is going."

I hope Ozzie and Sonicare are indeed "overcautious" about the risk of joint injury, though I admit I'll be a bit more hesitant to engage in my own bouts of unconventional infant cleansing.

]]> by: Picasso1387 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-53 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:02:53 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-53 <blockquote cite="Yes! I flense the flesh from babies’ bones! Hahahaha! Death to America!"> Actually, I think you just came up with an excellent name and tagline for your blog.</blockquote>

Actually, I think you just came up with an excellent name and tagline for your blog.

]]> by: Daniel Rutter http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-49 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:39:08 +0100 http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2006/10/13/ultrasonic-baby-cleaning/#comment-49 No, wait. That's no way for me to drum up traffic for my new and controversial blog. What I meant to say was: Yes! I flense the flesh from babies' bones! Hahahaha! Death to America! No, wait. That's no way for me to drum up traffic for my new and controversial blog.

What I meant to say was:

Yes! I flense the flesh from babies' bones! Hahahaha! Death to America!

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